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Poster: elmagno Date: Nov 29, 2010 6:03pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Gog?

Video Cellar said

Gog (Renewed Re0000087096)

on this thread
http://www.archive.org/post/285670/are-these-public-domain

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Nov 29, 2010 6:05pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Gog?

No copyright notice makes it PD.

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Poster: elmagno Date: Nov 29, 2010 6:43pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Gog?

The music too? No.

I think I might want to watch a good copy (Netflix has it) before I relied on these admittedly dicey copies which lack, among other good things, a copyright notice.

But that's elementary.

This post was modified by elmagno on 2010-11-30 02:43:11

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Nov 29, 2010 6:51pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Gog?

So even if thefilm itself is pd, the music isn't?

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Poster: elmagno Date: Nov 29, 2010 6:58pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Gog?

I'm no copyright lawyer nor do I want to be one even on TV, but the fundamental idea of derived rights (where they get their mojo) is that their claim is separately enforceable from whatever other claims or non-claims exist.

But, really, a good clean copy of this film is required before passing any judgment on its general PD status.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Nov 29, 2010 6:56pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Gog?

Filing renewals for the film, music, script, etc. is meaningless for a movie that was improperly copyrighted initially.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Nov 29, 2010 7:13pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Gog?

IF the music (soundtrack), script, etc. were copyrighted separately, then renewals to these would apply to the movie.

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Poster: elmagno Date: Nov 29, 2010 7:57pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Gog?

Well, dancing around the subject now and not artfully. My last word is my first: confirm the lack of copyright notice from a known good copy and go from there.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Nov 29, 2010 8:22pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Gog?

Hmm. Well, I can read the titles in my complete copy. I imagine I'd be able to see a copyright notice if the movie had one. Sometimes notices are in such a small font that it makes reading every letter difficult or impossible, though. But go for it! Then you could make an an excellent copy for upload.